As of this writing, there is scheduled an ELCA (i.e. "Evangelical Lutheran Church in America") convention to occur involving (among other housekeeping matters) whether or not to officially maintain an ELCA Human Sexuality Statement supporting the inclusion and continuance of rostered homogay ELCA clergy who officiate same-gender homosodomy unions (wrongly mistermed "marriages" by weaselword deviants).
Already, the preponderance of women "clergy" (donned with the pastoral robes, white collars, and fancy ecclesiastical costumes, of course) seems to have already been well established by the "evangelical lutheran church in America," tempting the faithful to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" and violently rip out the damnable weeds seamlessly engrained with the precious wheat. The spiritual condition of many of those within the organized ELCA is being manifested as follows:
Luke 11:26 Then he goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first."
With a so-called "church" as described above, who needs a pagan church of Satan, or similar "church" on the path to primative and hedonistic cultic barbarianism?
How did such pro-homofaggot feminist-sexist ELCA creeps ever get into ELCA authority in their Chicago headquarters? Who appointed them? How much do they mandate and integrate name-association affiliation alliance with Lutheran churches throughout the USA, control which congregation is provided with what pastor, discipline anti-homosexually non-compliant congregants, and decide which clergy are rostered, elected, and pensioned? Are constituent "voting members" of the ELCA subject to the homo-deviate whims of such wolves in sheep's clothing in the heavenly realms....especially pertaining to "legal" church-property ownership, placement of rostered clergy, and allocation of salaries and pensions for clergy?
Application of anti-homoeffeminate and anti-homosodomite Scripture verses within the Bible of the ELCA (i.e. the New Revised Standard Version translation) should obviously have already prevented ordination and rostering (and continued rostering) of homogay ministers infiltrating and defiling God's flock, and already answered the question of whether or not to commit the offense of joining same-gender perverts in pseudo-"matrimony" non-civil homosodomite sexual unions.
Jude 1:4 For admission has been secretly gained by some who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:12 These are blemishes on your love feasts, as they boldly carouse together, looking after themselves; waterless clouds, carried along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted;
The ELCA is already a divided sectarian religious denomination: part of the artificial non-profit entity is anti-homosexual; the other part of it is pro-homosexual. As oil and water never mix, so the anti-homogay/anti-sodomite orthodox of the ELCA will never mix with the pro-homogay/pro-homosodomite heretics of the ELCA.
The Conventions were and are great opportunities to discover and publish the names of all ELCA voting members, then both thoroughly investigate and honestly identify precisely who are pro-homo and who are anti-homo by how they voted and vote not only on the 2/3-majority-vs-simple-majority technicality issue but on the far more important and crucial direct homosexuality-allowance issue.
Those of the artificial-nonprofit entity of the ELCA identified as pro-homo by their convention votes must of necessity be quaranteened and disassociated away from in accord with the following:
Romans 16:17 I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them.
First Corinthians 5:11 But rather I wrote to you not to associate with any one who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of immorality (e.g. homosexuality as a homogay effeminate or celibate/non-celibate homosodomite), or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber--not even to eat with such a one.
Second Thessalonians 3:14 If any one refuses to obey what we say in this letter, note that man, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed.
Titus 3:10 As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him,
Titus 3:11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Such rightfully-discriminatory avoidance and lack of brotherly/sisterly-love unity is not exactly what so-called "bishop" Mark Hanson might want with his demand for polluted piss-with-pop and poop-with-pudding everyone-lay-hands-on-everyone-else warm-and-cozy-friends togetherness.
Instead, the tactical and strategic plans of non-homosexual saints (some of whom are affiliated with CORE and Word Alone and who are yet somewhat involved with and within the structural workings of the ELCA) need to be:
(1) cutting back the amount of money tithed to identified pervert ELCA leadership personnel,
(2) diverting would-have-been ELCA offering-plate money to orthodox genuine-Christian groups and entities,
(3) resigning from, not enlisting with, and not volunteering specialized services and maintenance duties pertaining to ongoing church operations and groups alongside homopervert ELCA voting members and officials, and
(4) working with secular groups seeking the legal and reputational demise of pro-homosexual ELCA voting members and hierarchy.
For those of you not familiar with the pertinent Bible verses alluded to, read the following:
Leviticus18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.
Psalm 139:21 Do I not hate them that hate thee, O LORD? And do I not loathe them that rise up against thee?
Ps 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.
Hosea 9:15 Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels.
Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;
Lu 6:46 "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do what I tell you?
Lu 14:26 "If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.
John 7:7 The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it that its works are evil.
Romans 1:27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty [such as AIDS] for their [homoqueer] error.
Ro 14:1 As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not for disputes over opinions.
Ro 15:7 Welcome one another, therefore, as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God. First Corinthians 5:13 God judges those outside. "Drive out the wicked person from among you."
1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [homogay] effeminate, nor sodomites,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 13:13 So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1Co 14:33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
1Co 14:34 the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says.
1Co 14:35 If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
1Co 16:14 Let all that you do be done in love.
2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ controls us, because we are convinced that one has died for all; therefore all have died.
2Co 6:17 Therefore come out from them, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch nothing unclean; then I will welcome you,
Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love.
Ga 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love be servants of one another.
Ephesians 5:7 Therefore do not associate with them,
Philippians 2:2 complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind.
First Timothy 2:9 also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in decent apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire
1Ti 2:12 I allow no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
1Ti 2:15 Yet woman will be saved through bearing children, if she continues in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.
2Ti 3:5 holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people.
Philemon 1:7 For I have derived much joy and comfort from your love, my brother, because the hearts of the saints have been refreshed through you.
Hebrews 10:24 and let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, First Peter 1:22 Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere love of the brethren, love one another earnestly from the heart.
1Pe 2:17 Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.
1Pe 4:8 Above all hold unfailing your love for one another, since love covers a multitude of sins.
1Pe 5:14 Greet one another with the kiss of love. Peace to all of you that are in Christ.
2Pe 1:7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.
First John 3:10 By this it may be seen who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not do right is not of God, nor he who does not love his brother.
1Jo 3:14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death.
1Jo 3:23 And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.
1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another; for love is of God, and he who loves is born of God and knows God.
1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.
2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we follow his commandments; this is the commandment, as you have heard from the beginning, that you follow love.
3Jo 1:10 So if I come, I will bring up what he is doing, prating against me with evil words. And not content with that, he refuses himself to welcome the brethren, and also stops those who want to welcome them and puts them out of the church.
Revelation 3:19 Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent.
As always, to avoid the demented senseless and ridiculous demonic accusations of: "taking Scripture verses out of context" or: "misinterpreting Scripture verses in a proof-texting nitpicky obsessive way," or: "not understanding metaphors and euphemisms and symbolism of outmoded ceremonialism of Old-Coventant Law," (etc. etc. ad nauseum), one should [legalistically] read and quote the entirety of the canonical 66-books Holy Bible before AND after reciting even one little clearly-applicable and obviously-appropriate verse. My deepest apology for not printing the totality of the entire Holy Bible at this time within this limited-space webpage.
And, oh yes: some of the verses above (like the ones regarding love) are now outmoded and no longer apply to enlightened and educated modern society, being that the wayward customs of many anti-religious (thus anti-First-Amendment Non-Prohibitionary-Clause) lawyerettes, judgettes, legislatorettes, and network-news-media pushy and snotty snits, sassy twits, sobbing woo-woos, along with argumentative-but-wimpish male pussies, have overridden old-fashioned and archaic Biblical directives with now-the-law-of-the-land Equal Opportunity and Equal Rights Acts of Congress [and searing deprecatory sarcasm is most heartily intended].
One would wonder how many of the ELCA, Methodists, Presbyterians, and Episcopalians ever got to such pro-homopervert, pro-feminist-sexist, pro-evolutionary, pro-seasonal-porno-immodesty, pro-abortion-homicide-choice aberrant errancy.
A short recollection of distant and more recent world history shows a repetition of the same old decadence and consequences against such.
It is interesting to note that there is nothing recorded in particularly the New Testament about any significant property or monetary resources Jesus and His disciples owned. It appears that non-501(c)(3), non-State-licensed, non-tax-"exempt," non-[nonprofit-charital-organization-status], non-accountable-to-IRS-mandates, house churches of private individuals were the rule rather than the exception throughout the book of Acts.
Thus, neither our Lord nor His Twelve Apostles were burdened with local city and country and state and federal governments with so-called "civil" or "human" "rights" rules and regulations with or without IRS interference. Anti-Christian Roman-government assessors and inspectors and zoning statutes were of no concern to them, nor hiring quotas for homogays and sexist feminists and similar degenerates. And who knows whether Saint Peter declared 'Holy Mackeral!' when he pulled up the fish with the tax money in its mouth?
Indeed, except for the ACLU and PAW (People "for" the American Way) and AUSCS ("Americans" United for Separation of Church from State) Herodian lawyers and legal groups trying to trick Jesus in his talk, the Lord and His Twelve blended in quite nicely with the Roman government (who understandably decimated those jew devils who crucified Master-Jew Jesus Christ and caused such trouble for the Jew Paul), which true-Jew (both by blood and by faith) Saint Paul was even rescued by the equivalent of Roman police and sheriff and other national-guard-type military personnel against diabolical synagogue-of-Satan jews as described in the book of Acts.
Actually, Roman law enforcement and judiciary were reluctant to mess around with a man-God named Jesus who could (and did!) command a storm into stillness, raise the dead back to life, change water into wine, give sight to guys born blind by simply speaking to them, walk on water, feed a stadium-size crowd of hungry men with a meager kid's lunch, and so forth. The same God-man who gave sight could have just as easily blinded an army of soldiers or even spoke them into an Ananias-and-Sapphira and Herod-like death. The Romans were aware of the God of the Hebrews who had annihilated an entire Egyptian army in the Red Sea holocaust, of an angel of the Lord who exterminated 186,000 Assyrian soldiers in one night, an Elijah who twice called down lethal fire from heaven on two squadrons of King Ahab's choice soldiers, and other Biblically-recorded historical events of similar effect.
After the alleged persecution of arena-exhibited Christians by Nero, the Catholic-Christian Holy Roman Empire under Constantine became the superior military force of the world, which was eventually replaced by the kingdom of the Church-of-England civilized Brits.
A lot of people wonder if the ELCA and other religious organizations should go along with the founding-father precedents of early-American history disallowing homosexuals, or instead comply with relatively-contemporary deviations from traditional morality on which morality the country was built upon. What is now popular? What do the violence-perpetuating summertime-misattired Immoral Majority want, who cheered on a woman VP candidate of the GOP and elected a pro-abortion pro-feminist Obama and his 60-some senators cronies who instituted a lifetime-member racist-and-feminist-biased Sotomayor in the High Court?
Does it matter? What is the LORD's will for a Christian Church, and thus assembly of the Body of Christ believing and behaving congruently with HIS Word? Many times, the weeds cannot be prematurely separated from the wheat within our intensely-interdependent local-neighborhood and global community. But the weeds must be distinguished from the wheat all during the process and at whatever stage of growth each entity is examined.
Moreover, the line must be drawn somewhere, and (actually-non-hypocritical!) imperfect-but-trying saints have to take a stand at some point, whether the problem at hand is homosexuality, or feminist sexism, or anti-creation evolutionary mythology, or seasonal partial indecent exposure in general public view. God will do His part to rightly and righteously discriminate - sooner or later - but He expects His elect to assist Him whenever and however they are able (in spite of their pathetic limitations and variable reliability):
Matthew 22:1 And again Jesus spoke to them in parables, saying,
2 "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a marriage feast for his son,
3 and sent his servants to call those who were invited to the marriage feast; but they would not come.
4 Again he sent other servants, saying, 'Tell those who are invited, Hey, I have made ready my dinner, my oxen and my fat calves are killed, and everything is ready; come to the marriage feast.'
5 But they made light of it and went off, one to his farm, another to his business,
6 while the rest seized his servants, treated them shamefully, and killed them.
7 The king was angry, and he sent his troops and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
8 Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding is ready, but those invited were not worthy.
9 Go therefore to the thoroughfares, and invite to the marriage feast as many as you find.'
10 And those servants went out into the streets and gathered all whom they found, both bad and good; so the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 "But when the king came in to look at the guests, he saw there a [non-born-anew impenitently pro-homogay, pro-evolutionist, pro-feminist-sexist, pro-public-immodesty] man who had no [born-anew impenitently anti-homogay, anti-evolutionist, anti-feminist-sexist, anti-public-immodesty] wedding garment;
12 and he said to him, 'Friend, how did you get in here without a wedding garment?' And he was speechless.
13 Then the king said to the attendants, 'Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the outer darkness; there men will weep and gnash their teeth.'
14 For many are called, but few are chosen."
15 Then the Pharisees went and took counsel how to entangle him in his talk.
16 And they sent their disciples to him, along with the Herodians, saying, "Teacher, we know that you are true, and teach the way of God truthfully, and care for no man; for you do not regard the position of men.
17 Tell us, then, what you think. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?"
18 But Jesus, aware of their malice, said, "Why put me to the test, you hypocrites?
19 Show me the money for the tax." And they brought him a coin.
20 And Jesus said to them, "Whose likeness and inscription is this?"
21 They said, "Caesar's." Then he said to them, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's [including Caesar himself, who God also owns]."
22 When they heard it, they marveled; and they left him and went away.