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Recently, yours truly engaged in some serious contemplation about what Scripture calls God's "foreknowledge" followed by "predestination" pertaining to human beings.

The most applicable Bible verses I can think of pertaining to both foreknowledge (of God the Creator) and predestination (of the Same) are:

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.

Romans 8:29 For those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that He might be the first-born among many brethren.

Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means!
15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
16 So it depends not upon human will or exertion, but upon God's mercy.
17 For the scripture says to Pharaoh, "I have raised you up for the very purpose of showing my power in you, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth."
18 So then He has mercy upon whomever He wills, and He hardens the heart of whomever He wills.
19 You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who can alter His will?"
20 But who are you, a human, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me thus?"
21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for beauty and another for menial use?
22 What if God, desiring to show His wrath and to make known His power, has endured with much patience the vessels of wrath made for destruction,
23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy, which He has prepared beforehand for glory,
24 even us whom He has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?

Hebrews 2:11 [RSV] For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified have all one origin. That is why he is not ashamed to call them brethren

Hebrews 2:11 [AV/KJ21/MKJV] For both He who sanctifies and they who are sanctified are all of One, for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brethren

Do the above-mentioned segments of Holy Writ violate the freewill choice of humans to either be for or instead against God and God's plan and purpose for them? Can they say 'No!' to God's predisposed intentions for or against them?

Is it "arrogant" or "playing God" to recognize and admit that a human's freewill choice has a bearing on what actually happens whatever God's foreknowledge or predestination is for that human? It is not arrogant, but simply a fact of reality.

Again, do made-in-the-Trinitarian/moral-perceptiveness-image-of-God humans comprised of a triad of body and spirit and soul have a freewill choice in the matter, or are they essentially forced to be involuntarily consigned to either the positive or the negative fate which their Creator has previously apportioned for them?

For example, when the Lord predicted that the following inferior gender would get pregnant and bear sons:

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said to her, "Hey, you are with child, and shall bear a son [gender selection already revealed without ultrasound?]; you shall call his name Ishmael; because the LORD has given heed to your affliction.

Genesis 17:15 And God said to Abraham, "As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name.
16 I will bless her, and moreover I will give you a son by her; I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall come from her."
17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said to himself, "Shall a child be born to a man who is a hundred years old? Shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?"
18 And Abraham said to God, "Oh that Ishmael might live in your sight!"
19 God said, "No, but Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him.
21 But I will establish my covenant with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this season next year."

Judges 13:3 And the angel of the LORD appeared to the woman and said to her, "Hey, you are barren and have no children; but you shall conceive and bear a son.

Second Kings 4:16 And [Elijah] said, "At this season, when the time comes round, you shall embrace a son." And she said, "No, my lord, Oh man of God; do not lie to your maidservant."

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Hey, a young woman shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:21 she will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for He will save his people from their sins."
Matthew 1:23 "Hey, a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and His name shall be called Emmanuel" (which means, God with us).
Luke 1:31 And hey, you will conceive in your womb and bear a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus.

. . . could not all or some of the freewilled-choice above-named women have retorted: "No WAY am I going to bear a son. I will make sure I never have sex with any guy for at least a year, and get myself a hysterectomy, and gulp down pregnancy-prevention morning-after pills every day for at least 13 months, so that predicted pregnancy will never happen!"

Yet, Biblical prophecy predicts even the precise number of 666 in the New-Testament book of Revelation with which the wicked will use their freewill choice to accursedly brand and tattoo themselves. One might wonder what would happen if they all conspired together simply to prove God and his prophecy wrong by making sure that the number of The Beast is anything but 666 (i.e. 593 or 782 or 46 or whatever) out of spite. How could the Spirit reveal such precise info to Saint John in Revelation that freewilled humans are going to choose that exact number for their ultimate graven image?

The "how," of course, is superfluous, but the "that" is not.

It is logical, it seems to me, that if certain humans are either predestined for Heaven or predestined for Hell, and their freewill choice in the whole decision is irrelevant and does not matter, what right (in all justice) does God have to consign them to either eternal fate?

In fact, why is there then any call or obligation for "repentance" whatsoever for all humans who ever lived, live now, and will live -- if all are irreversibly foreknown and predestined one way or the other?

Incidentally, the word "repent" has lamentably been used in such versions as the RSV as be a misleading incorrect replacement or erroneous substitute word for "relent" or "change the mind from what was previously planned or intended" . . . relating to God Himself (and notice that all the misuse of the word "repent" pertaining to Almighty God in the RSV is only found in the Old Testament and never the New Testament:"

Exodus 32:12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'With evil intent did He bring them out, to destroy them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the Earth'? Turn from your fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against your people.
First Samuel 15:11 "I repent that I have made Saul king; for he has turned back from following me, and has not performed my commandments." And Samuel was angry; and he cried to the LORD all night.
Jeremiah 18:8 and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will repent of the evil that I intended to do to it.
Jeremiah 18:10 and if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will repent of the good which I had intended to do to it.
Jeremiah 26:3 It may be they will listen, and every one turn from his/her evil way, that I may repent of the evil which I intend to do to them because of their evil doings.
Jeremiah 26:13 Now therefore amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God, and the LORD will repent of the evil which He has pronounced against you.
Jeremiah 26:19 Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and did not the LORD repent of the evil which He had pronounced against them? But we are about to bring great evil upon ourselves.
Jeremiah 42:10 If you will remain in this land, then I will build you up and not pull you down; I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I repent of the evil which I did to you.
Joel 2:14 Who knows whether He will not turn and repent, and leave a blessing behind Him, a cereal offering and a drink offering for the LORD, your God?
Jonah 3:9 Who knows, God may yet repent and turn from His fierce anger, so that we perish not?"

Sometimes, as previously mentioned, it is not known precisely what the RSV writers meant when they used the word "repent" pertaining to people (that is, whether the "repent" word was meant to express confession concerning sin(s) and promise to never ever do such again . . . and/or simply change one's mind or relent about a previously-planned course of action with or without the aspect of regretting committed sin(s) with both shame and guilt accompanying that:

Exodus 13:17 When Pharaoh let the people go, God did not lead them by way of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, "Lest the people repent when they see war, and return to Egypt."
Numbers 23:19 God is not man, that He should lie, or a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not fulfill it?
First Samuel 15:29 And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or repent; for He is not a man/woman, that He should repent."
Jeremiah 5:3 Oh LORD, do not your eyes look for truth? You have afflicted them, but they felt no anguish; you have consumed them, but they refused to take correction. They have made their faces harder than rock; they have refused to repent.
Jeremiah 9:5 Every one deceives his neighbor, and no one speaks the truth; they have taught their tongue to speak lies; they commit iniquity and are too weary to repent.
Jeremiah 18:8 and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I intended to do to them.

So, to reiterate, if humans have no choice in accommodating to or instead not accommodating to God's foreknowledge and predestination and call and plan for or against them, is He fair to - in effect - force His whim of either acquittal or instead condamnation upon them? Is not Scripture instead replete with examples of God's call for everyone to use their God-endowed freewill choice to choose to be for Him and His saving plan for them instead of vice-versa?

Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands ALL humans everywhere to repent.

First Timothy 2:4 [God] desires ALL humans to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth [not merely certain humans only?].

Who has the Lord discriminatorily foreknew and predestined to be saved, and if their fate is thus already sealed, why preach to them, if they automatically have already made it in without responding nor having to respond on their own in any way?

Jonah 3:1 Then the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying,
2 "Get up, go to Nineveh, that great city, and proclaim to it the message that I tell you."
3 So Jonah got up and went to Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, three days' journey in breadth.
4 Jonah began to go into the city, going a day's journey. And he proclaimed: "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!"
5 And the people of Nineveh believed God; they proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them to the least of them.
6 Then news reached the king of Nineveh, and he got up from his throne, removed his robe, and covered himself with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7 And he made proclamation and published through Nineveh, "By the decree of the king and his nobles: Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste anything; let them not feed, or drink water,
8 but let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and let them cry mightily to God; yes, let every one turn from his evil way and from the violence which is in his hands.
9 Who knows, God may yet repent and turn from his fierce anger, so that we perish not?"
10 When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, God repented of the evil which He had said that He would do to them; and He did not do it.
Jonah 4:1 But it displeased Jonah excessively, and he was angry.
2 And he prayed to the LORD and said, "I pray you, LORD, is not this what I said when I was yet in my country? That is why I hurried to flee to Tarshish; for I knew that you are a gracious God and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in continuous love, and repent of evil.

In stark contrast, did the Lord "repent" concerning the "foreknown" and "predestined" fate of the damned-to-become:

Numbers 26:10 and the Earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up together with Korah, when that company died, when the fire devoured two hundred and fifty men; and they became a warning.
Deuteronomy 11:6 and what he did to Dathan and Abiram the sons of Eliab, son of Reuben; how the Earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households, their tents, and every living thing that followed them, in the midst of all Israel
Psalm 106:17 the Earth opened and swallowed up Dathan, and covered the company of Abiram.

First Samuel 15:33 And Samuel said, "As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women." And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.

First Samuel 17:51 Then David ran and stood over the Philistine, and took his sword and drew it out of its sheath, and killed him, and cut off his head with it. When the Philistines saw that their champion was dead, they fled.

Jeremiah 28:15 And Jeremiah the prophet said to the prophet Hananiah, "Listen, Hananiah, the LORD has not sent you, and you have made this people trust in a lie.
Jeremiah 28:16 Therefore thus says the LORD: 'Hey, I will remove you from the face of the earth. This very year you shall die, because you have uttered rebellion against the LORD.'"
Jeremiah 28:17 In that same year, in the seventh month, the prophet Hananiah died.

Matthew 23:33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to Hell?

Matthew 26:24 The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born."
Mark 14:21 For the Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that man if he had not been born."

Acts 5:9 But Peter said to her, "How is it that you have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? Listen up! The feet of those that have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out."
Acts 5:10 Immediately she fell down at his feet and died. When the young men came in they found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her beside her husband.
Acts 5:11 And great fear came upon the whole church, and upon all who heard of these things.

Acts 12:23 Immediately an angel of the Lord smote [Herod], because he did not give God the glory; and he was eaten by worms and died.

In view of Revelation chapters 19 and 20, when Christ bodily returns for The Battle of Armageddon, and the beheaded who never got The Mark are resurrected and reign with Christ 1000 years, with capabilities of instantly transporting themselves whenever and wherever to suddenly appear and disrupt secret conspirings of wicked all over the globe, will only the armies of The Beast and The False Prophet become a bloody mess by The conquering Mouth-Sword from the Lord, but also all immodestly-misattired over the entire face of planet Earth who defiantly and deliberately have sexually abused and/or are sexually harassing modest Christians in general public view by flaunting mopheadedness, nude arms with sleeveslessness, naked legs with slackslessness and shorts, and soxless feet in sandals? Certainly the rod-and-iron rule of strict and non-bending theocratic law (far more strict and consistent that what is now in Iran), internationally headed by Christ and His human judges, enforcement officers, and educators, will quickly eradicate most wayward proclivitors of public-nuisance porno-indecency display, with execution reserved for vehement diehards.

The foreknowledge of God, and revealed prophecies of the Bible, are practically identical, in that God is aware -- beforehand -- what free-willed humans are going to choose and decide before they choose and decide it.

It would be one thing to predict what soul-less lower lifeforms, which and not "who" respond to complex and sundry environmental stimuli under every conceivable circumstance and condition -- at least for the omniscient mind of the Creator. But when lower-lifeforms actions are influenced by free-willed humans, does God really know what even those lower lifeforms are going to do?

Interesting it is that virtual prophecy statements of who already is obviously foreknown and predestined and positively responds to God's call, who clearly have intended and now intend and will continue to forever intend to remain in allegiance with the Lord, is engrained, by inclusionary default, right within immutable and sealed Scripture words which cannot change, such as the non-alterable statements of good angels who never rebelled against God in heaven, the Four Living Creatures, the Twenty-Four Elders, The Seven Spirits of God, and more:

Second Kings 2:11 And as they still went on and talked, hey, a chariot of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Luke 16:22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom.

Philippians 4:3 And I ask you also, true yokefellow, help these women, for they have labored side by side with me in the gospel together with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in The Book of Life.

Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was attested as having pleased God.

It is absolutely phenomenal that God already knows how a freewilled human will choose (to be either for or instead against Him before that human is even conceived into actual physical existence in the womb).

Such foreknowledge, again, initially seems to logically abrogate any freewill choice the human makes concerning or regarding his or her pre-arranged or pre-planned fate.

But God's foreknowledge is only foreknowledge and God's predestinating pre-planning is only predestinating pre-planning . . . it is not forcing any human to choose either positively or negatively when the ultimate and actual crucial call at a certain time and place from God is given to that human who then irrevocably chooses one way or the opposite, simultaneously forever sealing his fate regarding or concerning the two-pact agreement or disagreement between him/her and their Creator.

When it states that "the Lord hardened Pharoah's heart," it was because Pharaoh "drew first blood" by hardening his own heart (by himself) first:

Exodus 7:13 Still Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he would not listen to them; as the LORD had said.
Exodus 8:15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was a respite, he hardened his heart, and would not listen to them; as the LORD had said.
Exodus 8:19 And the magicians said to Pharaoh, "This is the finger of God." But Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he would not listen to them; as the LORD had said.
Exodus 8:32 But Pharaoh hardened his heart this time also, and did not let the people go.
Exodus 9:12 But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen to them; as the LORD had spoken to Moses.
Exodus 9:34 But when Pharaoh saw that the rain and the hail and the thunder had ceased, he sinned yet again, and hardened his heart, he and his servants.
Exodus 10:1 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go in to Pharaoh; for I have hardened his heart and the heart of his servants, that I may show these signs of mine among them
Exodus 10:20 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the children of Israel go.
Exodus 10:27 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let them go.
Exodus 11:10 Moses and Aaron did all these wonders before Pharaoh; and the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not let the people of Israel go out of his land.
Exodus 14:8 And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt and he pursued the people of Israel as they went forth defiantly.

Deuteronomy 2:30 But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him; for the LORD your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as at this day.

First Samuel 6:6 Why should you harden your hearts as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? After he had made sport of them, did not they let the people go, and they departed?

Second Chronicles 36:13 He also rebelled against King Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God; he stiffened his neck and hardened his heart against turning to the LORD, the God of Israel.

Daniel 5:20 But when his heart was lifted up and his spirit was hardened so that he dealt proudly, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and his glory was taken from him

Mark 6:52 for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened.
Mark 8:17 And being aware of it, Jesus said to them, "Why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive or understand? Are your hearts hardened?

John 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they should see with their eyes and perceive with their heart, and turn for me to heal them."

Romans 11:7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it sought. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened

Second Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were hardened; for to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away.

Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called "today," that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

WILL there be Old-and-New-Testament Bibles in Heaven full of sordid stories of rape, incest, murder, lies, and treachery? Does not The Word of God abide forever? If such is so, will those Bibles temptingly and suggestively mis-influence heavenly free-willed saints in glory to perhaps choose to re-sin?

Being that all well-remembered/never-forgotten temptations to sin will have been removed to remind the redeemed exactly what they were redeemed form, will they ever choose to want to sin again with their sovereign free wills -- being that:

Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever.

Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all causes of sin and all evildoers,
Matthew 13:42 and throw them into the [outer-darkness] Furnace of Fire; there humans will weep and gnash their teeth.
Matthew 13:43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.

being that:

Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inmost self. . .

Second Corinthians 5:9 So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please Him.

The Elect will always be in remembrance of how bad they were and that they needed redemption from whatever they needed redemption from, because their eternal songs of praise includes such - right in the texts to be sung:

Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the scroll, The Four Living Creatures and The Twenty-Four Elders fell down before The Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
Revelation 5:9 and they sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are you to take the scroll and to open its seals, for you were slain [for what?] and by your blood [why blood?] did ransom humans [ransom from what?] for God from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.