The Lord's circumstantial guidance and providential apportionment is not simply "a coincidence."
When it is said that one is either for God or instead against Him with the consequence as to where one will continue on in eternity, perhaps disagreement is a result of not hearing nor understanding the spiritual implications.
It seems that once one is for God, it is assumed that one is thus - in God's eyes - 'born again.' At that very instance, in that case, one would - that very instant - be in Heaven, which would be understandable and fair to God and His saints:
Proverbs 28:5 Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the LORD understand it completely.
Conversely, it is also understood that to ever become against God results in inevitable consignment to Hell.
Exodus 32:33 But the LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me, him will I blot out of My book."
Romans 2:6 For he will render to every man according to his works:
7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life;
8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.
9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek,
10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek.
11 For God shows no partiality.
12 All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.
13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.
14 When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them
16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
Such can be considered the ultimate sin, but many would agree that other sins, less serious, which some would assert would cause one to lose one's salvation or even becoming saved in the first place.
James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.
A Scripture reference for that ultimate (or mortal) sin is:
Mark 3:28 Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
Mark 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin."
First John 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sin a sin not to death, he shall ask, and He shall give him life for those that do not sin to death. There is a sin to death, I do not say that he shall pray for it.
But are we immune, so to speak, from committing certain sins after we are 'born again?'
ARE we immune to committing sin, because we still have a free will, and can change our minds about something?
First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
First John 1:10 If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us.
Many would say that if one once was for God but changed their mind so as to then become against God, they in fact never were for God initially and therefore never really were 'born again.'
Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do, I know not. For what I desire, that I do not do; but what I hate, that I do.
16 If then I do that which I do not desire, I consent to the law that it is good.
17 But now it is no more I that do it, but sin that resides in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) resides no good thing. For to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I do not find.
19 For I do not do the good that I desire; but the evil which I do not will, that I do.
20 But if I do what I do not desire, it is no more I working it out, but sin dwelling in me.
21 I find then a law: when I will to do the right, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man;
23 but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin being in my members.
24 Oh wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
So, in God's eyes and God's thinking, is a person who does not "sin to death" as First John 5:16 puts it, yet still 'born again?'
First John 3:9 Everyone who has been born of God does not commit sin, because His seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
First John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God, and everyone who loves has been born of God, and knows God.
First John 5:4 For everything that has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that overcomes the world, our faith.
First John 5:18 We know that everyone having been born of God does not sin, but the one born of God keeps himself, and the evil does not touch him.
First John 5:19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in evil.
Can they choose to become irrevocably angry against God permanently in the future, but until then - while temporarily being for God - get into Heaven?
Certainly, if they stay (that is, remain) against God in a big way, and - let's say - become a serial murderer or rapist, would God simply shorten their lives on Earth rather than undoing their 'born again' status? If He did terminate them temporally, would that result in them from no longer being for God and thus 'born again' being they would thereafter be unable to repent and changing either their attitude of being for God to instead being against Him?
If they are socially OK, and do not commit illegal acts defined by our criminal code of laws, but are in fact against God basically, will they regardless get into Heaven by originally being 'born again' in God's eyes initially, especially if they change their minds and become against God?
Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come,
6 if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt.
7 For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God.
8 But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed; its end is to be burned.
9 Though we speak thus, yet in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things that belong to salvation.
10 For God is not injust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do.
11 And we desire each one of you to show the same earnestness in realizing the full assurance of hope until the end,
12 so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
All sin must be accounted for, and that at the point of regeneration when a person is 'born again' in God's eyes and thinking, ALL sins (past, present, and future) are instantaneously washed in the blood of the Lamb.
Ephesians 2:15 in His flesh causing to cease the enmity, the Law of the commandments in decrees, that He might in Himself create the two into one new man, making peace,
Ephesians 2:16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby bringing the hostility to an end.
Hebrews 10:5 Consequently, when Christ came into the world, He said, "Sacrifices and offerings You have not desired, but a body have You prepared for Me;
6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings You have taken no pleasure.
7 Then I said, 'Wow, I have come to do Your will, God,' as it is written of Me in the roll of the book."
8 When He said above, "You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings" which are offered according to the law,
9 then he added, "Wow, I have come to do Your will." He abolishes the first in order to establish the second.
10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God,
13 then to wait until His enemies should be made a stool for His feet.
14 For by a single offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying,
16 "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days," says the Lord: "I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,"
17 then he adds, "I will remember their sins and their misdeeds no more."
18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering for sin.
19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the sanctuary by the blood of Jesus,
20 by the new and living way which he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through His flesh,
21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God,
22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
Is it not true that right up to our last breath, since we have a free will, we could choose to commit any and all sin - after being 'born again' in God's mind and thinking?
First John 3:9 Everyone who has been born of God does not commit sin, because His seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
In one sense, all things against God are sins, but all sins.....large or small....past and present and future....must be and are dealt with at the time of our rebirth and conversion experience.
Yet, as mentioned before, that rebirth does not in any way make us immune to committing any sin, large or small, all of which sins are taken care of by the blood of Christ.
Second Peter 2:21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.
For determining destiny of Heaven or Hell, one small sin is no different than the worst sin of all, and if either type is not forgiven the sinner's place will be in Hell.
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
Hebrews 10:27 but a certain fearful looking for judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
In other words, no one is ever immune to committing any type or severity of sin, but if he or she is 'born again' and then after that rebirth moment, under evil-influence duress, sins either massively or slightly, it is washed clean in the blood of Jesus by their previous rebirth of an-either-one-or-the-other-attitude of total commitment and surrender to the Redemption and Lordship of Christ Jesus.
Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Many example of either/or-but-not-both are found within the sacred contents of Holy Writ:
Genesis 19:15 When morning dawned, the angels urged Lot, saying, "Get up, take your wife and your two daughters who are here, lest you be consumed in the punishment of the city."
16 But he lingered; so the men seized him and his wife and his two daughters by the hand, the LORD being merciful to him, and they brought him forth and set him outside the city.
17 And when they had brought them forth, they said, "Flee for your life; do not look back or stop anywhere in the valley; flee to the hills, lest you be consumed."
18 And Lot said to them, "Oh, no, my lords;
19 hey, your servant has found favor in your sight, and you have shown me great kindness in saving my life; but I cannot flee to the hills, lest the disaster overtake me, and I die.
20 Hey, that city over there is near enough to flee to, and it is a little one. Let me escape there - is it not a little one? And my life will be saved!"
21 He said to him, "Hey, I grant you this favor also, that I will not overthrow the city of which you have spoken.
22 Hurry, escape there; for I can do nothing till you arrive there." Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
23 The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zoar.
24 Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
25 and He overthrew those cities, and all the valley, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.
Numbers 16:23 And the LORD said to Moses,
Numbers 16:24 "Say to the congregation, 'Get away from about the dwelling of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.' "
Numbers 16:27 So they got away from about the dwelling of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram; and Dathan and Abiram came out and stood at the door of their tents, together with their wives, their sons, and their little ones.
Numbers 16:32 ....and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households and all the men that belonged to Korah and all their goods.
Because of that, does God have a category where He determines that a person is either basically for Him overall ...or instead basically against Him overall?
The answer was given by Jesus Himself stating:
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
Luke 11:23 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
In conclusion, for those believe that the bloody sacrificial death of the perfect Christ (Jesus) is applicable for eternal atonement and justification to all who in humble and childlike faith merely believing that that is so:
John 10:28 ....and I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand.
But, isn't it true that especially Baptists, when 'born again,' are "once saved, always saved" -- and whatever sins they therafter commit don't count, because they're "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" Can't they then still adhere to popular pagan seasonally-or-situationally-immodest mopheaded or naked-armed or nude-legged or toes-exposing socksless dress styles and fashions of the world, the sexist-equality feminist-candidates-for-Prez-and-VP heresies of Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, Sean Hannity, and Townhall Magazine (directly contrary to God's non-changeable no-woman-in-charge mandates of Ecclesiastes 7:26-27, Isaiah 3:12, Nahum 3:13, and FIrst Timothy 2:12-14), and other expressions of wicked rebellion because "that is what most people want and will vote for so we will win the Election of 2012?"
Jeremiah 8:6 I have given heed and listened, but they have not spoken aright; no man repents of his wickedness, saying, 'What have I done?' Every one turns to his own course, like a horse plunging headlong into battle.
Does Jesus express righteous anger and impatience regarding His answer to those already 'born again?'
Luke 6:46 "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do what I tell you?"
Do the self-righteous counter with: "Oh, when you have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, you will not want to sin?"
Is the answer to that simply and emphatically: "Then don't ever sin!"
Paul gives us a clue as to the Lord's answer about "once saved always saved," with:
Romans 6:2 By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?
Should there not only be confession [graphic, or instead non-graphic?], but also repentance, for those 'once saved, always saved?'
Job 33:26 then man prays to God, and He accepts him, he comes into His presence with joy. He recounts to men his salvation,
27 and he sings before men, and says: 'I sinned and perverted what was right, and it was not requited to me.
28 He has redeemed my soul from going down into the Pit, and my life shall see the light.'
29 Hey, God does all these things, twice, three times, with a man,
30 to bring back his soul from the Pit, that he may see the light of life.
Psalm 7:12 If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword; He has bent and strung His bow;
13 He has prepared His deadly weapons, making His arrows fiery shafts.
14 Hey, the wicked man conceives evil, and is pregnant with mischief, and brings forth lies.
15 He makes a pit, digging it out, and falls into the hole which he has made.
16 His mischief returns upon his own head, and on his own pate his violence descends.
First John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Must the already-saved within Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, and other churches "repent?"
Revelation 2:4 But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first.
Revelation 2:5 Remember then from what you have fallen, repent and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Revelation 2:14 But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice immorality.
Revelation 2:15 So you also have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.
Revelation 2:16 Repent then. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth.
Revelation 2:20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and beguiling my servants to practice immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols.
Revelation 2:21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her immorality.
Revelation 2:22 Hey, I will throw her on a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings;
Revelation 2:23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am He who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.
Revelation 3:1 And to the angel of the church in Sardis write: The words of him who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. "'I know your works; you have the name of being alive, and you are dead.
Revelation 3:2 Awake, and strengthen what remains and is on the point of death, for I have not found your works perfect in the sight of my God.
Revelation 3:3 Remember then what you received and heard; keep that, and repent. If you will not awake, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come upon you.
Revelation 3:15 I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot!
Revelation 3:16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.
Revelation 3:17 For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
Revelation 3:18 Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that you may be rich, and white garments to clothe you and to keep the shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see.
Revelation 3:19 Those whom I love, I reprove and chasten; so be zealous and repent.
Is it not subtly sexy to see a pretty pre-teen, young woman, or even somewhat older one insert the erect prongs of her power cord into her wall receptacle, agitating the inner coils of her toaster to warm it up her toast, or inserting her other cord to excite the magnetic fields of her fan, causing it to wildly gyrate? And is it not pleasantly erotic to watch the same human female stick the rigid gas-pump nozzle at a service station into the open hole of her gas tank, which then starts her motor and causes her whole body chassis to powerfully surge forward and backward in reverse?
Christianity was not invented and especially not concocted nor connived by humans, but by the Christ who that religious belief-and-practice phenomenon was named after. Accomodating-to-Christ-Jesus Christian humans of course were, and yet are, and will be intimately involved in the creation and/or maintenance and propagation of Christianity along with doctrines and practices thereof....but through the eyes of obedient faith, we Christian believers plainly see that we ourselves are neither the God of Christianity nor the Creator thereof. The One that awesome title belongs to is both outside of us Christians and far beyond both our power and our frailty.
It is easy to understand the fairness and the justice of the Lord causing all His human creatures to not merely die (for much-deserved permanent relief) but to continue on eternally in a state of either sublime heavenly bliss or instead terrible hellish torment. Why that is both logical and sensible for us humans to accept is because of the injustice of mere death alone being the final answer to either reward or to punish those humans who much deserve either significantly far more reward or significantly far more punishment than they are deprived of by death (whether gradual or sudden) in this temporal life.... and which their deaths, in effect, short-circuit.
Some presume that the Death Penalty for deserving criminals is not enough, but that massive taxpayer-funded life-imprisonment incarceration is more satisfactory of a punishment. Such presumers not only violate the mandatory-execution directives of Scripture (much to everyone's short-and-long-term repeat-offender-and-worse consternation and misery), but do not realize that an eternity of either heavenly bliss and joy or instead hellish terror and torment awaits all deceased.
The reward that righteous people should get they do not get when death cheats them out of it. The punishment that wicked people should get they do not get when death cheats them also out of that.
Such promise and actual operational existence of everlasting destinies is fair and just not only because of that aspect, but also fair and just because that is - deep down - what both righteous and wicked human creatures inwardly desire. The righteous intensely want to have pro-abortion-homicide, pro-homosexual, pro-feminist, and pro-evolutionist wicked forever removed from their presence, to eternally be TOTALLY free -- away from the blasphemous and mean-spirited, dishonestly-lying, biased and judgmental, temporary evil duress imposed against them from the wicked...and conversely, the wicked vehemently want to have the righteous and their perpetually-grateful-and-thankful always-joyfully-obey-the-law righteousness forever removed from their presence, to eternally be TOTALLY free away from the righteous influencing them to be distastefully and regrettably good (in their view) and temporarily live righteously.
Keep in mind that I am not talking about morality or immorality abstractions of only righteous or wicked acts, concepts, motivations, nor intentions...but instead I am referring to the actual living people who practice and exhibit such characteristics. The Lord does NOT send the mere abstractions of philosophically-perceived righteousness to heaven nor philosophically-contemplated wickedness to hell. Love the saintliness AND the saint who performs such, plus hate wickedness AND the wicked sinner who commits such.
Don't get me wrong. It gets to the point where the righteous (like the LORD) no longer want the wicked to repent, nor to give them any further correctional reform chances any more, but instead want at least the Lord Himself to kill them - and thus completely and permanently remove them AWAY from their harassed presence:
Psalm 37:7 Be still before the LORD, and wait patiently for him; fret not yourself over him (and her) who prospers in his (and her) way, over the man who carries out evil devices!
8 Refrain from anger, and forsake wrath! Fret not yourself; it tends only to evil.
9 For the wicked shall be cut off; but those who wait for the LORD shall possess the land.
10 Yet a little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look well at his place, he (and she) will not be there.
11 But the meek shall possess the land, and delight themselves in abundant prosperity.
12 The wicked plots against the righteous, and gnashes his teeth at him;
13 but the LORD laughs at the wicked, for he sees that his day is coming.
14 The wicked draw the sword and bend their bows, to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those who walk uprightly;
15 their sword shall enter their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
16 Better is a little that the righteous has than the abundance of many wicked.
17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken; but the LORD upholds the righteous.
18 The LORD knows the days of the blameless, and their heritage will abide for ever;
19 they are not put to shame in evil times, in the days of famine they have abundance.
20 But the wicked perish; the enemies of the LORD are like the glory of the pastures, they vanish: like smoke they vanish away.
The demonic irritation and misery that the wicked impose against the righteous, and the holy irritation that the righteous cause the wicked, cannot be put into nor satisfied by words alone. Even the horrifying execution against the wicked, or the blessed release of death for the righteous, is no adequate retribution nor compensation for the accumulated lifelong evil or good works (and extensive effects of such) done by a human during his or her lifetime, and such a cutoff of simply death alone would be woefully inadequate if not for the reality of the prophecy and the actual eventual coming of eternal consequences.
Regarding the Election of 2012, why all the drive to incite inferior-gender feminist Michelle Bachmann to run for Prez? Why not rather nominate fine-morality budget-genius Paul Ryan? Why concentrate on a Palin-loser-type inferior-gender feminist, who negates all her falsely-attributed supposed teaparty-stance leadership and spokesmanship and even morality by grossly disregarding the vital anti-feminist-sexist pro-patriarchal platform of Ecclesiastes 7:26-27, Isaiah 3:12, Nahum 3:13, First Corinthians 11:1-16 & 14:33-38, First Timothy 2:12-14 and First Peter 3:7?
I have heard recent remarks from smug-and-bigoted religious (and perhaps pseudo-"christian") complainers that the present slate of GOP candidates (who I guess, at this time, includes Romney, Pawlenty, Santorum, Ron Paul, and Newt Gingrich) is [allegedly]: "not impressive." But in fact any one or two of them would be impressive enough compared to Barack "Barry Soetoro" Obama (even along with Joe Biden) in terms of who I would vote for.
Would the fake-christian grumblers be content with Saint Paul running for Prez and Saint Peter running for VP in view of the colorful and detailed records of what those two apostles said and did as portrayed in the New-Testament book of Acts? What about Jesus Christ himself running for President in the 2012 Election....with the voting public at large being well aware of all the pseudo-"inflammatory" and pseudo-"disruptive" things He did and said as recorded in the four New-Testament gospels?