Self-Saved?

There are at least a couple of slightly-differing renditions of the New-Testament Holy-Bible verse:

Hebrews 9:28 (RSV) so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.
Hebrews 9:28 (KJ21) so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto those who look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin, unto salvation.

The King James 21 rendition above includes the idea that to those who look for Him He will appear a second time without sin....whereas the Revised Standard Version rendition above includes the idea that those who wait for him who deals with sin will do so eagerly, and will appear a second time.

The KJ21 phrase: "without sin" is true to the inerrant Scrivener-Trinitarian Greek Text, and the implications are manifold. For one thing, no sinful beings will be grouped around the Lord when He returns, which was not the case during Christ's first appearance. Also, Christ Himself (who became cursed and sinful for us by hanging on a tree as He became our sacrificial atonement involved with our sins temporarily imputed to Him) will have no imputed sin within Him when He returns in power and glory.

You might have heard of the verse:

Romans 8:28 (KJ21) And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

The converse is also true, that all things work together for bad to those who hate God -- no matter how many self-righteous brownie points they presume they are doing as they commit pseudo-good-works activism along with critically-judgmental divisively-ranting rhetoric.

Romans 10:3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness that comes from God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness.

"Such negative talk," you might object. But by you yourself voicing that objection, you are [hypocritically?] being negative yourself!

When the righteous love, and when they hate - they sin not in either case. In stark contrast, when the wicked love, and when they hate, they sin in both cases, and thus are guilty of genuine 'hate crimes.'

Matthew 24:9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.
Mark 13:13 and you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.
Luke 21:17 you will be hated by all for My name's sake.
John 15:18 If the world hates you, know that it has hated Me before it hated you.
John 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have seen and hated both Me and My Father.
25 It is to fulfil the word that is written in their law, 'They hated Me without a cause.'
John 17:14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
First John 3:13 Do not wonder, brothers, that the world hates you.

The satanic world hated Saint Paul, and maligned him as a woman-hater. They slander and libel George W. Bush and his chosen staff. They hate Holy-Land-residing Jews and Israel and Netanyahu. They hate Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh and Reverend Don Wildmon, the late Reverend Jerry Falwell, and the late Reverend D James Kennedy.

My calling is to hate them back (as much as possible) with holy, legitimate, and understandable hatred....but love Reverend Jack van Impe and positive speaker Joel Osteen - who with classy eagerness relates to us what God can do for us and what we can thus do for ourselves.

Have you ever noticed the difference between cultic catholics, eastern-orthodox, angelicans, episcopalians, lutherans, presbyterians, methodists, even baptists (keeping in mind that not necessarily a majority of those in each named denomination are bonafide apostates).....compared to genuine Christians?

I mean, besides the fact that the cultic - in stark contrast to authentic Christians espousing the vital accuracies of the King James Version New Testament - deviate to corrupt Greek-texts-based English mistranslations of the New-Testament of The HOLY BIBLE?

As I recall (and correct me if I am wrong) never ONCE did renowned evangelist Billy Graham - in and during any of his public crusades - EVER give a eucharistic [communion] service where he demanded that audience comers-to-Christ cannibalistically eat Christ's presumed and actual dead or actual resurrectedly-living flesh and cannibalistically drink Christ's presumed and actual dead or actual resurrectedly-living blood.....NOR murdererously take a bite out of and eat Christ's resurrected and living presumed actual flesh plus swallow down a fifth of Christ's resurrected and living presumed actual blood.

When Billy spoke of "repenting of sins," what sins was he inferring and referring to? Some ludicrous so-called "sin" of potential converts and active converts attending his crusades having not ingested eucharistic pseudo-human-flesh wafers or Wonder Bread with grape juice or wine, having not ingested enough in quantity or frequently or often enough of blood and guts - according to variable or random humanistic limits and specifications, and/or having not ingested such yet at all?

Is it not readily obvious the resultant self-sufficient arrogance, and lamentable - even accursed - dire consequences of the despicable heresy of determining in-or-out yes-or-no spiritual salvation or damnation by acclaiming or condamning someone's own or some group's pseudo-self-atonement act and/or repeated acts of fake justification and sanctification by whether or not they have ingested or not ingesting bread and grape juice, not ingesting enough bread and grape juice, and/or not ingesting bread and grape juice often or frequently enough.....while pretending such is Christ's actual human flesh and actual human blood, dead or alive?

Leviticus 17:10 "If any man of the house of Israel or of the strangers that sojourn among them eats ANY blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood, and will cut him off from among his people.

[So does drink-no-blood-whatsoever God now in Christ all of a sudden make a complete as of Himself by a new and bizarre now-drink-blood contradiction???]

Acts 15:20 .....write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols and from unchastity and from what is strangled and from blood.
Acts 15:29 ......abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."
Acts 21:25 But as for the nations who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity."

From "blood" does NOT mean away from murder, but rather: away from drinking blood!

What is meant from a Christ who not only ordered people to eat His human flesh and drink His human blood, who also (literally, or instead figuratively?) called Himself The Door....

John 10:9 I am the door; if any one enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

who called Himself The Cowboy.....

John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."

....who called human people mere Subhuman Soul-Less Wooly Bleating Animals.....

John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."

....who called Himself The True Garden Vegetable....

John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser."

....who equated "the blood of the covenant" or "the new covenant" with a drinking vessel....

Luke 22:20 And likewise the cup after supper, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

First Corinthians 11:25 In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."

Is it not obvious to any scientist or police officer or insane-asylum guard [like eucharistic-less Pontius Pilate] the hideous insanity of one who walks up to them and declares that his human flesh should be eaten and his human blood drunken, that an alabaster or plastic or all-gold-metal-catholic-church cup are liquid enough in composition to itself be "poured out" and equivalent to a legal-instrument-contract "covenant" of property or other deed taken to and used within a bank or courtroom?

Has it ever dawned on some religious catholic types of any pseudo-christian denominational tag that some things are to be spiritually and NOT literally understood, as for example:

Matthew 16:6 Jesus said to them, "Take heed and beware of the "leaven" of the Pharisees and Sadducees."
Matthew 16:11 How is it that you fail to perceive that I did not speak about bread? Beware of the "leaven" of the Pharisees and Sadducees."
Matthew 16:12 Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of "the leaven" of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
Mark 8:15 And he cautioned them, saying, "Watch out, beware of the "leaven" of the Pharisees and "the leaven" of Herod."
Luke 12:1 In the meantime, when so many thousands of the assembly had gathered together that they trod upon one another, he began to say to his disciples first, "Beware of the "leaven" of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy [and not actual yeast].
First Corinthians 5:8 Let us, therefore, celebrate the festival -- not with the old "leaven," the "leaven" of malice and evil, but with the "unleavened bread" of sincerity and truth.

Can you the reader see the difference between literal and figurative here, between what is actual contrasted with what is merely represented allegorically as simply metaphors or similes or whatever?

ARE Christ's public command to everyone present and under the constitutional constrictions of the United States or Roman or Chinese or Swedish whatever government and nation or to eat human flesh and drink human blood to be taken literally? Or is all this some kind of a ridiculous religious game or noxious fantasy all must participate in to join and belong to The Holy Club?

John 11:3 So the sisters sent to Him, saying, "Lord, he whom You love is ill."
John 11:4 But when Jesus heard it He said, "This illness is not unto death [?]; it is for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified by means of it."
John 11:11 Thus He spoke, and then He said to them, "Our friend Lazarus has fallen ["]asleep,["] but I go to awake him out of sleep."
John 11:12 The disciples said to Him, "Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover [i.e. wake up eventually]."
John 11:13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that He meant taking rest in sleep.
John 11:14 Then Jesus told them plainly, "Lazarus is dead;
John 11:15 and for your sake I am glad that I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him."
John 11:16 Thomas, called the Twin, said to his fellow disciples, "Let us also go, that we may die with him."

Thomas, who had a realistically pragmatic and practical mind plus reasonable way of thinking, perhaps presumed that this kooky eat-my-flesh-and-drink-my-blood miracle-performing piece of carpentry [door] and garden vegetation [vine] and cowboy [shepherd] rabbi they were following who mouthed such absurdities as "not unto death" but then actually dying then dead, "sleeping" but actually dead, was another Jim-Jones-type wacko-nutcase goofball leading them all to miserable and non-funny disaster and catastrophic destruction.

So what should we make of Christ's and Paul's eat-actual-human-flesh-and-drink-actual-human-blood words? What did the Lord Himself say about them?

John 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
John 6:48 I am the bread of life.

That's better. Tasty and delicious Wonder Bread. More tolerable, but still off the wall. At least it beats the h*** of out drinking yucky actual human blood, dead or resurrected!

John 6:63 It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the [mere] words [and not actual dead or living human flesh and actual dead or living human blood] that I have spoken to you are [simply] [NON-flesh/NON-blood] spirit and life.

John 6:68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;

Mere "words" are NO de facto equivalence with actual living or dead DNA-coded human flesh and actual living or dead chromosomed A or B or O-type human blood - let alone ingesting such!

"Wait a moment," the cultic catholics and presbyterians and lutherans and eastern orthodox and methodist and anglicans and even baptists say. "What He really meant was that His words to actually eat his dead or alive human flesh and actually drink His dead or alive human blood are what is to be taken literally -- the acts themselves are to be taken literally, but maybe also what is ingested is supposed to be literally termed and/or literally be dead or alive human flesh and dead or alive human blood."

Hebrews 11:19 (RSV) He considered that God was able to raise men even from the dead; hence, figuratively speaking, he did receive him back.
Hebrews 11:19 (KJ21) accounting that God was able to raise him up even from the dead, from whence he also received him, in a figurative sense.

First Corinthians 2:14 The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

Not literally...but simply: spiritually?

So what about eucharist being The Ultimate Cure-All to self-absolve all sin [while continuing to live like the Devil]? IS eucharist The One Divine Equivalence FAR more important and even a replacement in place of the good works of not supporting feminist-sexist "equality," not committing abortion-homicide "choice," not calling effeminate or sodomite homosexuality "gay rights", not callling evolutionary mythology "science," and not calling prostitutional porno-licentuous "free-speech art?"

Is ingesting pretended living or dead human flesh and human blood The Decisive Indication of Super Righteousness, THE One-and-Only Highest Expression of Self-Sacrifice which a depressed and regretful human can do to attempt to save himself or herself in self-atonement? Is it THE Most Noble Expiation against one-time or repeated gross and inhumane atrocities? If so, pity the eucharistic-less penitent, then dead, thief on a cross who called Christ 'Lord?'

Luke 23:42 (RSV) And he said, "Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom."
Luke 23:42 (KJ21) And he said unto Jesus, "Lord, remember me when Thou comest into Thy Kingdom."

[Now you know why I like the admittedly-archaic-sounding but here-accurate KJ21 New Testament rather than the here-inaccurate RSV New Testament. The same situation happens when semantically comparing the contrasted word "women" with "widows" within the two stated renditions of First Timothy 5:14. That is because the RSV is based on [corrupt] Westcott-Hort and Sinaiticus and Vaticanus and Nestle and Aland-Metzger-type United Bible Society Greek texts].

And pity the eucharistic-less penitent woman caught in adultery who called Jesus 'Lord:'

John 8:10 Jesus looked up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
John 8:11 She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again [and make sure that you eucharistically bite into Me so I bleed to death, then suck it up?]."

Matthew 8:8 But the [eucharistic-less] centurion answered him, "Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; but only say the word, and my servant will be healed.

Matthew 14:28 And [eucharistic-less] Peter answered him, "Lord, if it is you, bid me come to You on the water."
Matthew 14:30 but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, "Lord, save me." [First choke down some of my human-body flesh and sip my blood, then ask whatever you will?]

Matthew 15:22 And hey, [an antisemitic?] [eucharistic-less] Canaanite woman from that region came and [bellered out]: "Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely possessed by a demon."
Matthew 15:25 But she [in her belligerantly-chauvenistic air of equal-rights feminist-sexist insubordination] came and knelt before Him, saying, "Lord, help me."
Matthew 15:27 She [in her belligerant-and-chauvenistically-snotty air of equal-rights feminist-sexist insubordination] said, "Yes, Lord, yet even the [feminist-equality women-who-nondomestically-compete-against-men?] dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table." [Go away - you have not chowed on My body and savored My blood yet?]

Is eucharistic imbibing absolutely vital for salvational survival -- a necessary human-effort addition to insure entrace into Heaven?

Matthew 7:21 "Not every one who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven [which is: one self-sacrificing himself and herself in eucharist even hour on the hour every day every Sunday morning at the beginning of every month?].

Matthew 6:25 "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what [communion wafers or Wonder Bread in whatever quantity and how often or seldom?] you shall eat or what [brand of bloody communion grape juice] you shall drink, nor about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life more than [eucharistic] food, and the body more than clothing [so make sure you immodestly and indecently get your hedonistic ticket to Hades by going sleevesless, slacksless, and soxless or wearing nothing at all in general public view?]

Mark 12:33 and to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the strength, and to love one's neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices [such as ingesting enough and often enough eucharistic actual living or dead human flesh and actual living or dead human blood]."

Luke 12:23 For life is more than [eucharistic actual-human-flesh and actual-human-blood] food, and the body more than clothing [so toss the bra and panties prior to having sex with your spouse].

John 12:43 for they loved the praise of [pretend-human-flesh-and-pretend-human-blood] men more than the praise of God.

Colossians 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of [eucharistic] food and [eucharistic] drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath.
Colossians 2:17 These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Colossians 2:18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on self-abasement and worship of angels, taking his stand on visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind,
Colossians 2:19 and not holding fast to the Head [with or without ingesting living or dead human flesh and human blood], from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.
Colossians 2:20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the universe, why do you live as if you still belonged to the world? Why do you submit to regulations,
Colossians 2:21 "Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch"
Colossians 2:22 (referring to things which all perish as they are used), according to human precepts and doctrines?
Colossians 2:23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting rigor of devotion and self-abasement and severity to the body, but they are of no value in restraining the indulgence of the flesh.

John 21:15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love you." He said to him, "[Eucharistically?] feed my [wooly-soul-less animal] lambs."

WHAT exactly is "The Lord's Table" and "The Lord's Supper?"

First Corinthians 11:20 When you meet together, it is not the Lord's supper that you eat.
First Corinthians 11:21 For in eating, each one goes ahead with his own meal, and one is hungry and another is drunk.
First Corinthians 11:22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.
First Corinthians 11:23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when He was betrayed took bread,
First Corinthians 11:24 and when He had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of Me."
First Corinthians 11:25 In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."
First Corinthians 11:26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes [so sound the blast of the proclamatory trumpet on your walkie-talkie or rooftop].
First Corinthians 11:27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.
First Corinthians 11:28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
First Corinthians 11:29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
First Corinthians 11:30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.
First Corinthians 11:33 So then [SO THEN?], my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another;
First Corinthians 11:34 if any one is hungry, let him eat at home, lest you come together to be condemned. About the other things I will give directions when I come.

In the above passage, in verses 21 through 22, Paul starts off by talking about church picnics where gluttony and drunkenness are rampant with (what I guess is more than simply non-intoxicating grape juice, whether in communion cups or guzzling right out of the bottle).
Then Paul strangely takes off on some weird eucharistic tangent, apparently equating "bread" with actual living or dead human flesh, and "a cup" with not only drinking the container itself but also being equivalent to some contract for deed.
Then he threatens people with illness and death concerning a non-defined "unworthy manner" warning of being "profane" involving the whole thing by not "examining himself" and not previously "discerning the body" (whatever the duce that is supposed to mean).

Scary and negative stuff, indeed.

To avoid the apparently mortal sin of doing what it takes to be irreparably hellbound, consider staying away from the not-simply silly but even dangerous and potentially-lethal eucharistic ritual altogether -- and instead host and attend home church parties eating and drinking and "celebrating?" The Lord's Supper with or without the Lord's Table in the company of a few friends, like Paul instructed Jeffrey Dahlmer above? -- following the safe and blessed examples of the eucharistic-less penitent thief and eucharistic-less women caught in adultery - be you a noisy and sexually-harassing Canaanite dog or not.

It must be a phenomenally-heady experience for a priest, pastor, or minister to have the awesome power of changing rye or barley bread into Christ's actual human body parts and Christ's actual human white-and-red-corpuscled blood. Makes the Lord's power of turning loaves and fish, or water into wine, pathetically puny and simplistic child's play by comparison. Just think: mere sinful mortal men creating the body parts of God Himself! For a change, why not fabricate by faith a life-sized flesh-and-blood working copy of the virgin Mary? And for the super-ecclesia to do those ultimate supernatural eucharistic tricks over and over! Incredible! Disbelievable! Makes the work of Dr. Frankenstein concocting the monster from lifeless human body parts of the recently deceased lying motionless in gravesite burial-vault repose that much more believable.[?]

Too bad those superior-magician-type clergy who mystically transform bread to Divine human body parts plus fruit juice to Divine cholesteral-containing human blood [?] don't do something really useful -- like changing offering-plate beach-sand gifts to gold, granite to high-grade plutonium for nuclear power plants, or global Spam for the world's poor and starving.

And if enough of those wonder-working clergy doing their transubstantiative eucharistic matter-to-energy-to-matter transmutations could get and work together so that each one contributes some unique body part and different blood-component ingredient of the human body of the ever-living Christ (that is, one creating a leg, an arm, a neck, an ankle, an ear, an eyelash, a penis, a nose, an anus, and so on), the enviable outcome would be to eventually reconstruct and assemble an entire Jesus Christ body lying in temporary repose, then perhaps electrically shock it into ongoing breath-of-life motion.

But perhaps that would result in that despicable Graven Image thing (and not person) predicted in Revelation chapter 13, to be worshipped by the damned.